New Firm (Scotland)

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New Firm

City or region	North-east Scotland
Teams involved	Aberdeen and Dundee Utd
Most wins	Aberdeen

The New Firm is the term used to describe the rivalry between Scottish football clubs Aberdeen and Dundee United. Both clubs are located on the east coast of Scotland, in the third and fourth most populous cities respectively.

Although not traditionally a derby, with 65 miles separating both teams, the fixture is seen as a North-east of Scotland derby between the two most successful teams in Scotland outside of the Old Firm in the past 30 years.

Contents 1 History 1.1 Domestic head-to-head 1.2 League competition 1.3 European competition 2 Players at both clubs 2.1 Aberdeen to Dundee United 2.2 Dundee United to Aberdeen 2.3 Complete list 3 Player records 3.1 Aberdeen goalscorers 3.2 Dundee United goalscorers 4 References 5 External links

[edit] History

The term originated in the 1980s when both clubs challenged the Old Firm for domestic trophies.^[1]

The Old Firm have always been the dominant force in Scottish Football, however throughout the 1980s both Aberdeen and Dundee United were more than a match for them, regularly beating them home and away and winning most of the trophies on offer.

Aberdeen were to win the Scottish Premier Division three times, the Scottish Cup four times, the Scottish league Cup twice and the European Cup Winners Cup and the European Super Cup, all within the 1980s.

In this same period, Dundee United won the Scottish Premier Division once, and the Scottish league Cup twice, as well as reaching the Scottish Cup final four times, the UEFA cup final, and the European Cup semi-final.

Not only were the Old Firm not dominating the title race, for three seasons in a row, 1983 through to 1985, the league title went to either Aberdeen or Dundee United, meaning for the first time two other teams were dominating Scottish Football.

Both sides' success was limited as they entered the 1990s. Aberdeen winning the Scottish Cup in 1990, and reaching cup finals in 1992 and 1993 as well as almost winning the league in 1991, while Dundee United were cup finalists in 1991 and Scottish Cup winners in 1994, however in the 1994/95 season both sides fought relegation, and although Aberdeen won the Scottish league cup in 1995 neither side has won a trophy since or managed to be a consistent force for Rangers and Celtic to reckon with, and Aberdeen's league success in 1984/85 is the last time a team from outside the Old Firm has won the Scottish league title.

[edit] Domestic head-to-head

In domestic head-to-head matches, the teams have played each other 215 times, Aberdeen winning 84 compared to United's 69.^[2] Aberdeen have won more league and Scottish Cup matches, although United have won one more League Cup match between the two.

After 07 May 2009:

Team	League	Scottish Cup	League Cup	Total
Aberdeen	64	11	9	84
Dundee United	53	6	10	69
Draw	48	9	5	62

[edit] League competition

In the ten full seasons of the Scottish Premier League (up to the end of the 2007–08 season), Aberdeen have a superior record, accumulating more points.

As of 30 May 2008:

Club	Seasons	Played	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	Pts
Aberdeen	10	378	133	87	156	458	547	−89	486
Dundee United	10	378	99	101	176	404	586	−182	398

[edit] European competition

In European competition, Aberdeen have played in more tournaments and in more games, competing in 26 tournaments to United's 23 and in three more matches.^[3] Despite this, United have a better record per game, having won and scored more, and lost and conceded fewer. In terms of trophies, Aberdeen won the 1982–83 Cup Winners' Cup, as well as the European Super Cup, whereas United were runners-up in the 1986–87 UEFA Cup.

As of 22 March 2008:

Team	T	P	W	D	L	F	A
Aberdeen	26	107	44	28	35	159	122
Dundee United	23	104	45	28	31	162	104

[edit] Players at both clubs

Nine players have signed for Dundee United directly from Aberdeen, the last being in 2000. Ten have made the opposite journey from Tannadice to Pittodrie, with five since August 2005.

[edit] Aberdeen to Dundee United Date Player Fee 00 000 1964 Thom, LewisLewis Thom Unknown[4] 00 000 1976 Williamson, BillyBilly Williamson Unknown[5] 01 Jul 1983 Gardiner, JohnJohn Gardiner Unknown[6] 05 Nov 1995 Ray McKinnon £200,000[7] 19 Mar 1997 McKimmie, StewartStewart McKimmie Free[8] 01 Jul 1998 Joe Miller Free[9] 23 Sep 1998 Dodds, BillyBilly Dodds Swap[10] 19 Jan 2000 Hamilton, JimJim Hamilton £150,000[11] 08 Jun 2000 Buchan, JamieJamie Buchan Free[12]

[edit] Dundee United to Aberdeen Date Player Fee 00 Oct 1966 Munro, FrankFrank Munro £10,000[13] 09 Jan 1974 Henry, JimJim Henry £20,000[13] 28 Mar 1992 Paatelainen, MixuMixu Paatelainen £400,000[14] 02 Jun 1998 Perry, MarkMark Perry Free[15] 23 Sep 1998 Winters, RobbieRobbie Winters £700,000[10] 31 Aug 2005 Crawford, StevieStevie Crawford Free[16] 31 Aug 2006 Miller, LeeLee Miller Free[17] 01 Jun 2007 Mair, LeeLee Mair Free[18] 18 Jan 2008 Duff, StuartStuart Duff Free[19] 07 Jul 2008 Kerr, MarkMark Kerr Free[20]

[edit] Complete list

In addition, other players have played for both clubs without moving directly between them. A list of all players to have played at least one first-team game for both clubs is displayed below.

Scottish Jim Bett Craig Brewster Stevie Crawford Billy Dodds Davie Dodds Stuart Duff John Gardiner Jim Hamilton Jim Henry Mark Kerr Lee Mair Stewart McKimmie Ray McKinnon

0 Jamie McQuilken Joe Miller Lee Miller Charlie Mulgrew Frank Munro Mark Perry Derek Stillie Lewis Thom Billy Williamson Robbie Winters Stephen Wright

English Jamie Buchan Finnish Mixu Paatelainen Northern Irish Danny Griffin Michael O'Neill

[edit] Player records

A list of players to have scored in derby matches between the two from 27 August 1994 upto 07 May 2009 is below:

[edit] Aberdeen goalscorers Scorer Goals Mackie, DarrenDarren Mackie 7 Stavrum, ArildArild Stavrum 7 Winters, RobbieRobbie Winters 7 Nicholson, BarryBarry Nicholson 4 Young, DerekDerek Young 4 Crawford, StevieStevie Crawford 3 Dodds, BillyBilly Dodds 3 McGuire, PhilPhil McGuire 3 Sheerin, PaulPaul Sheerin 3 Windass, DeanDean Windass 3 Booth, ScottScott Booth 2 Diamond, ZanderZander Diamond 2 Jess, EoinEoin Jess 2 Kane, PaulPaul Kane 2 Miller, LeeLee Miller 2 Severin, ScottScott Severin 2 Tosh, SteveSteve Tosh 2 Zerouali, HichamHicham Zerouali 2 Aluko, SoneSone Aluko 1 Belabed, RachidRachid Belabed 1 Byrne, RichieRichie Byrne 1 Considine, AndrewAndrew Considine 1 Dow, AndyAndy Dow 1 Foster, RickyRicky Foster 1 Grant, BrianBrian Grant 1 Hinds, LeighLeigh Hinds 1 Kiriakov, IlianIlian Kiriakov 1 Kombouaré, ToniToni Kombouaré 1 Lovell, SteveSteve Lovell 1 Mike, LeonLeon Mike 1 Shearer, DuncanDuncan Shearer 1 Smith, JamieJamie Smith 1 Solberg, ThomasThomas Solberg 1 Stewart, JohnJohn Stewart 1 Touzani, KarimKarim Touzani 1 Own goals 1

[edit] Dundee United goalscorers Scorer Goals Olofsson, KjellKjell Olofsson 8 Dodds, BillyBilly Dodds 7 Winters, RobbieRobbie Winters 7 Easton, CraigCraig Easton 5 Robson, BarryBarry Robson 5 Hannah, DavidDavid Hannah 4 McLaren, AndyAndy McLaren 3 Sandaza, FranciscoFrancisco Sandaza 3 Archibald, AlanAlan Archibald 2 Cameron, GregGreg Cameron 2 Fernandez, DavidDavid Fernandez 2 Grady, JamesJames Grady 2 Hunt, NoelNoel Hunt 2 McSwegan, GaryGary McSwegan 2 Miller, CharlieCharlie Miller 2 Miller, JoeJoe Miller 2 Pressley, StevenSteven Pressley 2 Robertson, DavidDavid Robertson 2 Samuel, CollinCollin Samuel 2 Thompson, StevenSteven Thompson 2 Brewster, CraigCraig Brewster 1 Conway, CraigCraig Conway 1 Crawford, StevieStevie Crawford 1 Daly, JonJon Daly 1 Dods, DarrenDarren Dods 1 Feeney, WarrenWarren Feeney 1 Ferraz, JoaquimJoaquim Ferraz 1 Gomis, MorgaroMorgaro Gomis 1 Goodwillie, DavidDavid Goodwillie 1 Griffin, DannyDanny Griffin 1 Hamilton, JimJim Hamilton 1 Kalvenes, ChristianChristian Kalvenes 1 Lilley, DerekDerek Lilley 1 McConalogue, StephenStephen McConalogue 1 McIntyre, JimJim McIntyre 1 Miller, LeeLee Miller 1 Paterson, JimJim Paterson 1 Scotland, JasonJason Scotland 1 Swanson, DannyDanny Swanson 1 Venetis, TassosTassos Venetis 1 Welsh, BrianBrian Welsh 1 Mark Wilson 1 Zetterlund, LarsLars Zetterlund 1

[edit] References

[edit] External links

• Soccerbase list of New Firm meetings
• BBC's 'A Sporting Nation' New Firm article

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