Talk:Galician people
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[edit] Relationship with other languages
The article says: "As well Galician language shares typical structures of the celtic languages like Welsh or Irish, principally. For instance, questions can be asked with the same verb used in that question. "
Can somebody show me and example of that, please. Which is the share? I'm Galician, so, if the example is in Galician that's ok. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.146.211.220 (talk) 14:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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- It is usually referenced in regards to Portuguese, and as such it is exactly the same in Galician (henceforth Galician-Portuguese or G-P): it's a peculiarity that *apparently* (not an expert, just repeating) is found mostly in G-P in the Latin languages, although I'm not sure on the importance of it. Examples:
- G-P: O dinheiro tá sob a mesa? Tá. / Não tá.
- Spanish: El dinero está sobre la mesa? Sí. / No.
- Irish: An bhfuil an t-airgead air an bhord? Tá. / Níl.
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- G-P: É a tua casa? É. / Não é.
- Spanish: Es tu casa? Sí. / No.
- Welsh: Ai dy dy di yw? Ie. / Nage.
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- (Exemplos adicionais: "Vais conduzir? Vou / Tocas gaita?/Toco" etc etc) Basically is the preference of answering the question with the verb and not with yes/no. This is true btw, but I'm not the one to vouche for the "celtic" origin of it; see http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:sbNr8FXQCPQJ:www.williamknox.net/syntax.htm+portuguese+celtic+languages+verb+questions&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1 (page seems to be offline). I'm not sure on the actual consensus surrounding this although I remember reading about it somewhere before--213.58.131.130 (talk) 17:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Neutrality
This article should be revised and expanded. I thin tht even if somebody has Galician blood in them or even a last name from Galicia they should be considered Galegos.. I wasnt born there but my name is from there and I consider myself one —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.182.41.16 (talk) 03:15, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tabaré Vázquez and Fidel Castro
Can anybody explain why Tabaré Vázquez and Fidel Castro are shown as representative galician? They both did not born in Galicia, Montevideo and Cuba. And I think Franco's picture is not a good option. --Galician 18:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Don't quote me on it but I think Franco was actually full blooded Galician. Although he may have been less, he was at least from Galicia and thus likely had some Galician ancestry. As far as Castro goes I remember reading somewhere that his parents were both from Galicia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.30.162.5 (talk) 17:24, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
Franco was ethnic Spanish (Castilian) though he was born in Galicia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.78.176.205 (talk) 19:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- No man, his parents had galician surnames. --213.60.88.213 (talk) 14:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pablo Iglesias
I have been thinking galician personalities who can appear in the pictures. Pablo Iglesias, the fouder of UGT and the Spanish Socialist Party is a good option. I was thinking too in Castelao. --Galician 13:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I would also include Manu Chao on the list at the end of the article.195.252.87.116 15:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Argentinians-Galicians
There have to be a mistake with the numbers of the galicians in argentina, almost 2,5 millons of Spaniards arrived in argentina between 1850 and 1950.
Approximately the 70% of them where galicians, and the numbers of spaniards today in argentina is 25 millons, so check the numbers of the galicians in Argentina.
- Perhaps that number represented the Galician-born or Galician-speakers rather than everyone of Galician descent? Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 02:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Ashamed
I am ashamed, as Galician one, an Galician speker, by this article. It is not neutral, in various ways. A Galician person is Galician or not. Fidel Castro is not a Galician, Niki Lauda is not a Galician, Simon Bolívar is not a Galician, etc, there are people descendants of Galicians, but they are no Galicians... But Salvador de Madariaga was a very universal Galician vip's and he is not in the list. There are not 10.000.000 of Galicians... 90 % Galician people today not speaks Galician language. To speak a language is not to say any words, very bad spelled, and mixtured of Spanish words with coinages of Spanish orations... An article over Galicia could say the true about these country and its people, not a Syrens tale and marvelous epic poem - Montes, 10 - X - 2007, 2:06
--Shrewsbury333 03:02, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Historical region
I have added the term historical region in the definition of the article. I have done it because Galicia in one of the three historic nationalities in the spanish state. --Galician (talk) 16:44, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Spain have 4 historic nationalities (Basque country, Catalonia, Galicia and Andalucía) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.96.224.195 (talk) 22:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pictures of Galician People
Due to the pictures have seen changed quite often, taking off universal galicians like Rosalía Castro, Camilo Jose Cela,... I propose only four or five pictures as we can see in most of ethnic groups articles. And please, do not interfere adding people like Fidel Castro, Simon Bolívar, etc because they have galician origins, but they are not galicians. Besides, they are not representative of galician culture or its historical society.--Galician (talk) 16:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I propose:
- Politic field: Manuel Fraga, he was one of the most influent politics and galician history. And not Francisco Franco, because he just was borned in Galicia, not participating in its construction or in its politic directly.
- Artistic field: Rosalía de Castro. No discussion about this, and Eduardo Pondal, who wrote the Galician national anthem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Galician (talk • contribs) 17:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Politic and Artictic field: Castelao, he was one of the fathers of galician nationalism, and I thinks it is a good idea to show the two politic currents, the galician nationalism (Castelao) and the spanish one(Manuel Fraga) --Galician (talk) 17:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
What happened to the good image of Rosalia de Castro? The current photo is so faded and inferior you wouldn't recognise her if she did a Lazarus!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Provocateur (talk • contribs)
- You have to ask that question at Commons, it was speedily deleted there for lack of licence. Regards, Asteriontalk 12:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Minor edit
I fixed a misspelling in the article: "molusks" to "mollusks". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.75.97.234 (talk) 15:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
¿Por qué carallo han quitado a Eugenio Monterio Ríos? En España el derecho procesal está basado en el que hizo él hace más de cien años. Lo que habla bien de lo visionario que fue. --91.116.183.203 (talk) 17:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Confusing Sentence
The following is the first sentence under the A Revival and a sense of national willpower section: "Nationalism meeting in 1931 Following the union of the kingdoms of Aragón and Castille, Galicia became swallowed up in the creation of the Spanish protostate..." Is there someone who can rewrite the beginning of this to make sense? I don't understand the first part as written. Kman543210 (talk) 07:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Photos, too many and/or too big
They don't seem to fit into three rows as expected. I'm not about to decide which faces are less important than others, but this is how it looks for me (screenshot). — CharlotteWebb 17:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cherokee Indians and Euro-Galicians are related: A pseudohistory?
Unusual as it sounds, but a somewhat popular myth (or pseudohistory) about the origins of some Native American tribes of Eastern North America, they were derived from Iberian peoples mainly Galician fishermen arrived in the Americas after crossing the North Atlantic to followed dense fishing grounds about 1,000 years ago. Galicians are thought to been present 200 years before the Spanish set sail to the New World, the theories on Galicians inhabited the shorelines of Newfoundland off the coast of Canada and may traveled farther south to modern-day Nova Scotia and along the Eastern USA seaboard. Then came the linguistic mystery although was long been solved on the similar etymology/ namesakes of Galicians (Gallego in their language) and the Cherokee's self-names Cha-La-Gee as they called themselves or Tsa La Gi given by neighboring tribes in the Southeastern USA. This has created a myth on Cherokees are descended from lost white men being Galicians were mentioned by several British and American anthropologists back in the 19th century on their studies of North American Indians. But after enough linguistic studies (very different languages) and genetic research, the myth was widely rejected. The theories on a pre-Columbian ethnogenetic relationship with Galicians were debunked, but the mythology continues to intrigue some Galicians and American Indians, thus you have a renewed interest on the myth or pseudohistory of Galicians forming Cherokees in pre-Columbus America. + 71.102.2.206 (talk) 07:14, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
