Template talk:Programming paradigms

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[edit] Response to apparent arbiter of English

Mathematical Programming is both a paradigm of Mathematics and simultaneously one of Computer Programming and is actually better established as the latter than any of the others in the (current) list as such, being roughly co-eval with the development of electronic computing. I hope I don't have to document this. Lycurgus (talk) 14:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, if I were to follow the (relatively lax/sloppy usage) of the rest of the template I could add some subparadigms such as the Informatik approaches to creating information systems as optimization problems on the domain of problem information flows such as those of Langefors, et. al., cost and sizing/estimation paradigms such as those of Barry Boehm, et. al. 72.228.150.44 (talk) 14:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

It is nice to know that there are more people interested in improving this template. In my opinion, a good way to proceed to reach consensus about the inclusion (or non-inclusion) of Mathematical programming (or any other element presented here as a programming paradigm) is as follows.

I think we should document here only programming paradigms that were declared as so in the corresponding articles and accepted by a consensus among the editors of the individual article in question. For instance, if Mathematical programming is indeed a programming paradigm, then this should be first documented in the corresponding article (together with the citation of one or more reputable sources) before adding a new entry to this template. This way we will be able to keep in this template only entries which have achieved consensus in the corresponding articles, thus freeing this template from most potential disputes.

As to the sloppy usage of "programming paradigm" for the current entries of this template, the template contents are always open for review. In that case, feel free to create one section in this talk page for each entry that you want to challenge. We are open to listen to you and to collaborate with you in improving the contents of this template. --Antonielly (talk) 16:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Adding the template to the involved pages

I think we should follow the example of most other "categorical" templates (such as Template:Software Engineering and Template:GUI widgets) and add this template to all the articles referred to by it. However, the current layout of this template is cumbersome for adding it to pages other than Programming paradigm. For instance, I have made two attempts to make it fit an article, but it didn't fit well due to layout issues. I believe we should change it somehow, but the new layout should still preserve the hierarchies of programming paradigms and (if possible) the highlighted contrasts of "opposing/dual" paradigms. How could we remedy this? --Antonielly (talk) 17:07, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

One solution could be to keep {{Programming paradigms}} as it is (as a vertical navigation template), and create a horizontal version perhaps {{Programming paradigms footer}} for use at the bottom of the page. With a horizontal version it might be harder to show hierarchy though. Both templates would also have to be maintained separately, but we could mitigate problems by having notices on both template pages indicating that any changes should be replicated in the other template. Another question-- why shouldn't the vertical template be inserted higher in the page?  LinguistAtLarge • Msg  14:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)