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Contents 1 Wrestling 1.1 British Under 23's Championship 1.2 Anarchy Championship Wrestling 1.3 The Canadian NINJAS 1.4 Melissa Coates

[edit] Wrestling

[edit] British Under 23's Championship

British Under 23's Championship (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Though at first glance I see notability, but there are no references within the article besides a few external links and they all appear to be primary, beside one. While my search on Google didn't show me any reliable references that I am aware of. They all seemed to only be fan sites, etc. If this is as important as it is foretold in the article, then there should be a few third party refs.--WillC 15:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. —WillC 15:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Anarchy Championship Wrestling

Anarchy Championship Wrestling (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Notability has yet to be established. In my search I have yet to find a reliable third party reference, only primary sources. I am also nominating the following related pages since if this one is not found notable, then neither are these:

ACW-IWA Texas Heavyweight Championship (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

ACW-IWA Texas Hardcore Championship (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

ACW-IWA Texas Tag Team Championship (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

ACW-IWA Texas Young Guns (U-30) Championship (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

ACW-IWA Texas Lone Star Classic Championship (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

ACW-IWA Texas Lethal Lottery Championship (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

ACW-IWA Texas American Joshi Queen of Queens Championship (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)--WillC 14:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. --WillC 14:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
• Delete fails to establish notability, does not provide sources and is almost a walled garden group of articles. MPJ-DK (talk) 15:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - a good primary source would be a story in the Austin Chronicle that discusses the promotion in detail ([1]). It also has enough mentions in other relaible third-party sources to help establish notability per the General Notability Guideline ("If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article."). I believe that I could turn this article into something worthwhile if given a chance. Putting a one-week time limit on it during an AfD doesn't really help, though, as I have no idea what the next few days will bring. I will commit to improving it, though, in a timely manner. GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:23, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 17:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Canadian NINJAS

The Canadian NINJAS (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Per precedent at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashley Lane and Nevaeh. They've only teamed together approximately six times, and all the relevant information is already located in the articles of the individual members. The team itself has not established notability independent of its members. Nikki♥311 19:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. —Nikki♥311 19:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep Rather than looking at the number of times they have teamed together, I believe the notability guidelines call on editors to check for sufficient mainstream media coverage. The team is discussed in decent detail here and are mentioned on several reliable websites as holders of the Shimmer Tag Team Championship. GaryColemanFan (talk) 20:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment:, disagree. Just holding the Shimmer Tag Team Championship isn't enough to warrant a separate article for the team. Teams who have held more prominent titles (like WWE or TNA tag team titles) and teamed for longer periods of time have been deleted in the past. Most of the Google Hits are from unreliable sources, wrestling news sites, or are trivial mentions of them as the champions. Moreover, the SLAM article linked to is about Nicole Matthews, and the team is mentioned because it is a notable part of her career...but that doesn't make it notable in the history of professional wrestling and warrant a separate article. The mentions in the individual members articles are sufficient for now. If the team continues to team together or wins other championships, the article can be recreated at a later date. Nikki♥311 02:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
• Comment: The linked site seems to be a reliable source, but it's not in the article. The article as it now stands violated BLP, if references were provided, that would make a difference. However, that source doesn't show up in a Google search, so it's understandable that it wasn't found. In addition, they only get one Google news hit, and only 169 Google hits, none of them apparently reliable. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 20:37, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Melissa Coates

Melissa Coates (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Woefully inadequate sources sufficient to demonstrate notability   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 04:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

• Keep. I'll work on this a little later (within the next couple of days) to expand and source it. She is a professional athlete that will pass WP:ATHLETE and has place in the top 10 at the Ms. Olympia and the top 5 at the Ms. International, which are two of professional body-building's most prestigious competitions. And she won the Jan Tana Classic, which was considered the third most presigious event behind the two I already listed. She also had a reasonable successful modelling career, having appeared on covers of notable publications. Unfortunately, the author chose to focus on her marginally notable wrestling involvement and made her professional body-building career almost an afterthought.Niteshift36 (talk) 09:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 12:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 12:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - A google search returns over 34,000 hits. She is notable for her bodybuilding career, as she has been included in several print sources. I have added a couple of short articles from Flex magazine that discuss her career. A lot more information is available in reliable sources, so she passes the General Notability Guideline. GaryColemanFan (talk) 14:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - Some notability established in a search of Google News (note to GaryColemanFan - more relevant in an AfD than generic search hits) with actual mainstream media sources being available. -- Scjessey (talk) 15:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)